Gamer and hardcore gaming…what are those?

[captainpopoMember]

And how do they wo…..

 

Just some questions i’ve been pondering for some time, what exactly is a gamer and what the hell is hardcore gaming?

[slykatMember]

Well i can give you the typical outlook from the industry and we’re supposed to look at it… hardcore game is well one who plays games as either a hobby or job, often hours on end, and will play games for tital names or even word of mouth, and can even avoid crappy ign ratings and such.  We’re also supposed to think they are fat and smell bad and play games all day, are very critical spend tons of money on games and so on and so forth.  They own tons of consoles and games, and if they 2nd or 3rd in a sequel come out they will buy it instantly as long as its not piss poor lol Regular gamers are more casual play games they tie to series sets and such.  often we note Battlefield or  diablo fans etc as being hardcore gamer, more for personality than actual sales and initiative if that makes sense.

but in my opinion my friend, i’ve learned this sort of mind set… id say a hardcore game tends to schedules their lives and being around the game, while a casual gamer like a lot of folks tend to schedule their games around their life.  Kind of bland but its what i stick by ha

[weckarMember]

So, in both cases, series and sequels are a good thing?

[captainpopoMember]

@slykat I barely understood what you said.  My questions are what is a gamer as a whole and what is hardcore gamING, not hardcore gamer.

Also, why do people who play games have to be labeled as “gamers”, you don’t see someone who watches movie be classified as a movie watcher or hardcore reader.  ”Oh this guy is not even a REAL reader since he only reads Twilight and this guy hasn’t even seen Citizen Kane, what a casual.”

• This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  captainpopo.

[kkslider555Member]

Hardcore gamers is a stupid term made by douchebags to pretend they are the best gamers ever because they play (insert flavor of the month shooter here) and ignore any game that people who actually know about games have played that have sold less than 5 million copies.

[awhaleableMember]

“Also, why do people who play games have to be labeled as “gamers”, you don’t see someone who watches movie be classified as a movie watcher or hardcore reader.  ”Oh this guy is not even a REAL reader since he only reads Twilight and this guy hasn’t even seen Citizen Kane, what a casual.” ”

 

Idk you might see those in places where those things are discussed heavily. I wouldn’t be surprised. Movie goers, bookworms. I’m sure there are names out there they have for themselves, but as someone who doesn’t go to a place where that type of discussion is usually found, I can’t say for sure.

I would say a typical gamer is someone who checks the internet once in a while to read about games, or looks at reviews before buying a game. Generally one who indulges in gaming culture. You don’t have to label yourself as a gamer if you don’t want to.

 

not exactly sure what you mean by hardcore gaming… like mlg and stuff?

[captainpopoMember]

As I said, I don’t know what’s hardcore gaming but I hear this a lot, like how some people call Call of Duty casual but something like ARMA is  hardcore gaming. The more controls, the more hardcore? I don’t know….

“I would say a typical gamer is someone who checks the internet once in a while to read about games, or looks at reviews before buying a game.”

Why? Ben, Becky, Kyle and Deacon just play games, they don’t watch or read reviews of games so they can’t be “gamers”?

[slykatMember]

@captainpopo sorry industry definition was reflecting on what hardcore gaming is lol  Hence i said that in my reasoning.

its just all terminology, hardcore gaming is usually associated with titles that those play but more so the hours.  Its not really the game more so as hardcore gaming is the amount of time etc.  Like you could describe fraser as a hardcore tf2 gamer based on the hours he played or even overall as the amount of games and hours spent.  Sometimes people call hardcore gaming those who play the hard games like want to be the guy: gaiden, and games like that.  Sometimes its simply those who try to be completionists in games and such.  Very rarely do i ever hear call of duty casual as its often noted for hardcore gaming like halo with hours and hours of game play.  One consistent that is often addressed is hours and the amount of time people play.

Than again in my opinions its merely words and terms, they spark from masses of meanings and people’s words and so on.  They can be gamers and are gamers, it simply depends upon whose opinion it is.  Hardcore movie goers often have the title because of hours of watching and thats “hardcore movie going”.  Terms and phrases have been around for ages and will do, does not really matter but to simply play games and enjoy them.  Its like asking for other terms or hardcore moving watching or going or any other subject that has titles people attach onto it.  Depends on the person’s definition, everyone has their own.

[awhaleableMember]

Well a lot of that is because fraser makes them avoid doing it for the sake of the show. But it all comes down to whether or not you want to call yourself a gamer.

I’m not saying there’s a strict definition of who is and isn’t a gamer (plus i said typical gamer) and I didn’t say they can’t be gamers. That is just what I think of when I hear the term “gamer”.

 

Gaming is pretty much a hobby, if you consider it your main hobby (as I do) then you probably consider yourself a gamer.

 

As for hardcore… I agree with slykat, I think “hardcore” is probably more about playing games that require a good amount of “skill”, whether it be getting highscores on Donkey Kong or having the best K/D ratio in Halo of Dutyfield or what have you. Idk these are all silly vague definitions really.

I don’t think COD is casual at all, it’s just really popular and mainstream, so obviously super gamers who appreciate and study all things gaming are going to call it casual just to hate it and try to offend people who like it. Are a lot of the Bros who play COD casual gamers? I wouldn’t say that either, they usually play it a lot and don’t really care about the ratings or the single player campaign. There are lots of people who play street fighter non-stop and buy the newest rerelease without thinking for a second, but nobody calls them casual because they’re not the most popular games right now.

I mostly play games to just enjoy them, rarely do I play games to try to win or try to get good at. But I still like to keep up with the gaming world and how well certain games fair in ratings. I’d probably consider myself average/casual gamer.

[ibunwestMember]

I thought hardcore gaming was when you could beat a game WHILE fuckin a girl.

(I thought I’d be silly because labels are kinda silly. )

[juicyMember]

I think it was easier to define people by these terms in the past. I think now because more people have a lot more access to consoles and  games it’s not as simple to use these labels nor is there any need to. I know I bitch about casual gamers and the games that companies are making to pander to that market but when I think about it, why do I care? I think a hardcore gamer would just be someone who spends more time than the average person playing video games. I don’t think it’s specific to genre or ability. I would of described myself as one in the past but now because of extra responsibilities and commitments I can’t spend as much of time playing games so don’t feel as though I would describe myself as being one :/

[bluehawk007Member]

I’d say being a gamer means playing games is one of your more favorite things to do.

Hardcore gameing can be considered different by every person so thats why there is always a stupid debate/flame war going on about that type of stuff.

[lisaMember]

IMO,

A gamer is somebody who plays games a lot and is a huge fan of them, a bookworm or a bibliophile  is somebody who reads a lot, and a film buff  or a cinimafile (think I got that right) is someone who watches movies more then the casual viewer etc.

Usually these broad terms apply when it’s a hobby of theirs that takes up a significant part of their life and they’re (usually) more knowledgeable then the average person about said hobby.  You don’t need to be good at playing the games, you just have to have some sort of passion about it.

Putting “hardcore” in front of gamer or gaming is just a way of saying you put some serious amount of time into a game to be the best you can be at it. Like beating a game 10 times just to learn everything about it or something like that.  The term gets abused like “epic” does.

I think the term casual gamer speaks for itself.

• This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  lisa.

[verrostetMember]

Hardcore gamers are people who watch the Black Ops episode of VGA and feel a need to post these comments:

“I will own you if we ever met in zombies”
“FAIL”
“I cant even watch a minute in…..”
“you guys suck”
“do you guys even know how to knife?”
“these guys are so fucking shit >.> never buy a gun in the first room >.>”
“you guys do know on round 4 you open the door then buy mp40 the turn on power get jug on then stay on stag upgrade a gun from the box and go to high rounds.”
“Oh my god u suck at point maximizing, u dont know the right guns to choose and ur BOTH noobs. especially the dude”
“dude the Olimpiya sucks y the fuck would u buy that piece of shit? I have a way to get to round 20 and I am suprised that they didnt go online cuz it’d be like better than 2 players. I played solo before and I got to 15 so I know that I can play better than this.no offence but u guys kinda suck unless this is ur first attempt then thats fube cuz then obviously u’d epic fail.”

[travelersfMember]

I absolutely DESPISE the word “gamer”. It’s just a pet peeve of mine, but I’ve never liked the term. It just feels too… active to me, like it’s trying make playing games sound bigger than it is. I can understand labeling people as “painter”, “photographer”, “runner”, “dancer” or something else that actually requires a great deal of time and effort to achieve. But gaming, for me, is a passive thing. I do it to pass time, nothing more. You wouldn’t call anyone who reads books “a reader”, or someone who enjoys movies “a movie watcher” or something like that. Now, terms like “a book enthusiast” or “a movie fan” work much better so I rather use something like that when talking about video games.

 

I would rather use the term “gamer” when talked about professional players, journalists, reviewers and other people that really get into the gaming culture, and again, put a lot work and effort into playing and analyzing games, instead of just using them as a way to pass time. I know this comes off as very confusing, but my point is that, in my opinion, the word “gamer” is quite overused. But that’s just what I personally think.

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