Now I kind of understand why Fraser is getting mad at the chat. (Witcher 2)

[apocMember]

I skipped Witcher 2 live because I wanted to play the game myself first and now that I’m almost done (and that I was in need of my weekly dose of VGA with the break.) I started watching it slowly. (I’m at part 26 while writting this.)

At least there was almost no Snarfs but SO many people were giving bad advice, especially with the glitches. I’m only at the end of Act 1 of the playthrough but so far in the playthrough I saw only one thing that may really have been a glitch, the one in the tutorial. All the others may have been the usual Fraser being bad at following directives, or like in the case of the Kayran fight (I did the same thing as Fraser the first time) bad design choice. There are also some weird little things here and there (mostly AI or pathing related.) but those can’t be considered full-fledge glitches.

I’m usually on the side of chat but while watching this playthrough I’m the one getting mad at chat. I think that’s really the worst case of a bad chat I remember seeing so far. Probably more bad/false advices than good ones.  Derp exist for a reason guys, use it! I admit that lately I’ll sometime skip the Snarf since Fraser keep trolling the chat with it but Derp should not when you are trying to be helpfull but not sure.

Can’t loot in combat – Chat: Glitch!

Can’t climb in combat – Chat: Glitch!

People wearing ugly shorts – Chat: Glitch!

*facepalm*

At least CameraLady came in to save the day giving many good advices around part 24 or so. (And probably some other people too but overshadowed by the bad advices.)

 

Since I don’t want this topic to be only negative, it’s interesting to see how differently Fraser and I played the game. (Minus skipping things for the show.) Obviously Frasalt is generally being an ass while I’m always playing a good guy in my first playthrough of a game. He’s also spamming throwing knives, oils and other consummables while I’ll usually use them only when I can’t win a fight or when I know beforehand a boss fight is coming. One thing we both do though is always picking up way too much stuff and slowly walking to a shop.

Oh and I’m not sure if Fraser was really playing on normal like he was saying but if true, 360 Normal = PC easy. And the 360 version seems way less polished (or a patch was released since the  show.)

[soghogMember]

Chat’s notoriously inconsistent. Its what happens when you give a bunch of people the ability to give advice – and they forget that the snarf/derp system exists. I think a reminder at the start of each episode will help especially for the many new turbos we get.

[TWODIMENSIONALUSMember]

Chat is more often annoying than not. I know it won’t happen, but I wouldn’t mind the show without a chat.

[twitchmonkeyMember]

The chat is certainly quick to jump on the glitch train. Fraser is known for finding glitches so of course when it looks like one has been found everyone will start to yell out “glitch!”. The issue is when someone gets overexcited and snarfs it. Snarfing should be a privilege that has to be earned and can be revoked, right now it does as much harm as good.

[joshuaoMember]

The snarf/derp system does exist for a reason, and when people ignore it, that’s fine. Not prefacing a message with snarf or derp is saying “This isn’t advice, this is a comment”.

I hate when people assume that things that don’t start with “I think” or “Maybe” are definitely a snarf, the concept exists to exclude that very idea.

[pixi4688Member]

I was there for most of Witcher 2 and CameraLady was very helpful I also gave some advice, like when I knew Fraser wouldt be able to find somewhere I said something like “the women is upstairs I spent ages looking for her” Becky read it out and Fraser seemed to appreciate the tip knowing how bad the map marker can be at the game, but I really get your point the chat did sometimes get out of hand on that game but I think it is just people trying to help but they just get it wrong sometimes.

[juicyMember]

Tbh the chat annoys me mostly because of spoilers I try to avoid looking at it most of the time when I watch episodes. I agree though they should come down harder on people who snag falsely it seems to have got out of hand a bit :/.

[soghogMember]

We do come down hard on spoilers, but all it takes is one guy who forgets the rules.

[SolidRevolverMember]

Yeah, I am 50/50 on the chat at the best of times.  A lot of people seem to be all ‘lololol Frage!’ and aim to get it via devious means.

I dont often chat during shows, I am usual reclined with it in full screen, but I knew the Arkham City DLC was going to be difficult combat wise, and Fraser would want it finished quickly.  So I made sure to help as much as I could as I love that game and know it inside out.  And I played on the PS3 so I actually knew the buttons, rather than just randomly guessing.  As the show went on I get the feeling Becky realised my advice was correct and she seemed to pick my hints and tips out more as the episode went on.

So I guess the only way to kick out the bad side of the chat is just, if you know (and I mean *KNOW*) and they ask, give your advice and hope Becky sees it.  Maybe she will continue to pick up on your correct advice, and the troll attempts will begin to fall on deaf ears and thin out.

[thuavirMember]

I must say that the chat made an impression that almost none of them played the Witcher which is strange because it’s a realy frigging good game. Makes me wonder if Fraser will continue playing it, I mean it’s been like two months since the last episode. The last chapter, even in the Enchanced Edition, is pretty short, they could make it in like 2 to 3 hours max.

[yeismeloadMember]

‘Chat is more often annoying than not. I know it won’t happen, but I wouldn’t mind the show without a chat.’

 

That’s funny, I actually suggested in another thread that doing a non-live show once or twice a month might be a good way to switch things up, since a lot of the chat is basically meta memes and spoilers etc., but also because there was a certain dynamic between the vga crew and the games that has been missing since introducing chat on to the screen in my opinion.  I love the chat as a whole, but there are times when I do miss it just being about vga and the games, rather than them constantly being tied to all of us.  Unfortunately it is unlikely to happen, largely because the majority of people would rather just have every show with chat in it, but also because as crystalhawk pointed out, non-live shows take a lot more time and effort on frasher’s part to edit, similar to the show and trailer episodes.

• This reply was modified 10 months ago by  yeismeload.

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