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homestar2084 9 months, 4 weeks ago.
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Ooh, is there a way we can get a 6 on 6 team to cooperiate a perfect camp setup. I want to see how hard it is to get out of spawn and see how legit this argument is.
Maybe Harvest would be the best experiment. There’s only two doors to get out of after all.
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This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by
gukingofheart.
For the tl;dr version of my post – I’m not sure everyone is even on the same page with regard to spawn camping and what it actually entails. To me it’s more a question of what the powers-that-be have said and their word is law. But as this topic is more about expressing opinions on the subject, I feel like rambling and expressing my own thoughts as well.
So here they are.
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|-[ You Should Skip This If You Don't Care About My Opinion ]-|I very much dislike the concept of spawn camping, and hearing Fraser say it’s okay was disappointing… originally. But that was because I date back a few years and based on all I have read since the original statement, I believe that I have a varied definition of spawn camping.
I go back to games like Action Quake II and Half-Life Deathmatch. So my idea of spawn camping is different.
For me, spawn camping is when a player or players actively move into position overlooking the opposing spawn site and spend the rest of the game killing players as they re-spawn. It’s a sad exploit to drive up a kill count and troll other players in a very negative sense.
Spawn killing is a strategy. It’s a concerted and deliberate effort by a player or players to attack an enemy spawn to hold back the opposing team for a short time. It’s an attack and not a continuous effort to exploit the game.
Mind you, spawn killing is still something I personally frown upon. It’s still an effort to prevent players from entering the game proper. To reference kshade’s post, “…it is also most dishonorable and not fun.” But it isn’t continuous and usually, once the attack has been broken, you would see the same players joining a battle over a cap point or flag or some such target.
And of course, there’s the occasional opponent that simply wanders into enemy territory and get’s into a fight with the newly re-spawned. That’s just the way the game evolves in any given battle.
It’s for these varied definitions that I take everything I read and hear regarding this subject with a hefty serving of salt.
The main point that I have always understood on this subject regarding Team Fortress Awesome is that the strategic side of this matter (Spawn Killing by my own opinions) is allowed. And that abuse or exploit of such a practice (Spawn Camping by my own opinions) is to be policed by teams themselves as long as it can be done reasonably.
I’m okay with that. I’ve had fun. And the final say falls to the admin and the mods. That would be Fraser and the mod team. If this is their policy then I respect that.
I sort of view this as a displeased rant and I can understand. Especially if there was an effort to spawn camp en masse. But the point remains. Fraser is not going to change his mind over a single incident and neither is anyone else.
My personal opinion on the matter, failing an ability to break the attack, is that I should tough it out until teams scramble / maps change or drop from the game and come back later.
That would be my recommendation to anyone. But bare in mind I’m nobody. That’s just my two cents plus a lot of rambling and nostalgia. To be perfectly honest, I’m not sure why I felt like discussing this, but I did. Chalk it up to tired feelings or maybe even a desire to play some TF2 while I can’t due to occupied system resources. Whatever.
It’s my humble opinion and I hope someone at least finds it interesting or amusing. Otherwise, I’ve wasted your time.
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|-[ You Should Have Skipped This If You Didn't Care About My Opinion ]-|tl;dr – See previous text.
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This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by
thewildcat.
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This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by thewildcat.
It’s an unofficial rule.
If your on blue and everyone is yelling at you to stop on both sides..well the respectfully thing to do would be to stop.
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This reply was modified 10 months ago by gukingofheart.
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